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SegaCD and PlayStation are phenomenal.

Unread post by rooted » Thu Jan 09, 2020 5:38 pm

I did a lot of testing of these two systems today and they work so well. I'm really excited about the platform and didn't expect it to be as good as it truly is, I haven't really experienced perfect emulation on a portable device like the Go Advance delivers.

The screen is much better than pictures or videos show, it's very vivid and easy to see, coupled with fluid gameplay it is awesome. I can't imagine someone purchasing and being disappointed with the display or emulation.

I don't usually gush but I'm happy to revisit my childhood on the "Go", being an older guy I had all these systems (except Atari 7800, Lynx, or PC Engine CD) growing up and couldn't have imagined we would eventually carry a device with such a vast library of games across multiple systems with all day battery life.

The Hardkernel team have really hit this one out of the park.
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Unread post by jutleys » Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:59 am

I tested a few psx games today simply amazing emulation silky smooth.
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Unread post by meveric » Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:32 pm

Sega32x is working fine as well
Same goes for FBA (CPS1,CPS2,CPS3,NeoGeo)
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Unread post by rooted » Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:47 pm

meveric wrote:Sega32x is working fine as well
Same goes for FBA (CPS1,CPS2,CPS3,NeoGeo)
and ScummVM
Yeah I was wondering why Neo•Geo wasn't included, it's good to hear it and some of the arcade hardware is working well.

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I was wondering why Neo•Geo wasn't included
NeoGeo was tested and worked well. It is not included due to the complexity of the ROM sets.
https://github.com/OtherCrashOverride/r ... #L214-L218

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Unread post by rooted » Fri Jan 10, 2020 5:37 pm

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I was wondering why Neo•Geo wasn't included
NeoGeo was tested and worked well. It is not included due to the complexity of the ROM sets.
https://github.com/OtherCrashOverride/r ... #L214-L218
What would I have to do to add it?

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Unread post by crashoverride » Fri Jan 10, 2020 5:56 pm

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What would I have to do to add it?
Compile the binary from here:
https://github.com/libretro/FBNeo

Using the instructions/makefile provided here:
https://github.com/libretro/FBNeo/tree/ ... r/libretro

Create a folder for the system in /opt/libretro and copy the library (.so) file there. Then modify the es_systems.xml in /etc/emulationstion to add it to menu.

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Don't forget to copy a UNIBIOS into the system folder created.
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Unread post by rooted » Fri Jan 10, 2020 7:35 pm

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What would I have to do to add it?
Compile the binary from here:
https://github.com/libretro/FBNeo

Using the instructions/makefile provided here:
https://github.com/libretro/FBNeo/tree/ ... r/libretro

Create a folder for the system in /opt/libretro and copy the library (.so) file there. Then modify the es_systems.xml in /etc/emulationstion to add it to menu.

[edit]
Don't forget to copy a UNIBIOS into the system folder created.
I did all that and I got an error about ELFCLASS32, so apparently this has to be built on 64bit.

Guess it will give me something to do tomorrow unless someone wants to share the core.

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Unread post by crashoverride » Fri Jan 10, 2020 7:39 pm

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I did all that and I got an error about ELFCLASS32, so apparently this has to be built on 64bit.
If you compiled it as 32bit, then use "retrorun32" command instead of "retrorun" to launch the core.
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Somehow I think NeoGeo and FBA will make it into someone's repository somewhere. If not the official, then batocera or TheRA.

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npaladin2000 wrote:
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Somehow I think NeoGeo and FBA will make it into someone's repository somewhere. If not the official, then batocera or TheRA.
FBA/NeoGeo is nothing new.. the cores are already available.
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rooted wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 5:38 pm
I did a lot of testing of these two systems today and they work so well. I'm really excited about the platform and didn't expect it to be as good as it truly is, I haven't really experienced perfect emulation on a portable device like the Go Advance delivers.

The screen is much better than pictures or videos show, it's very vivid and easy to see, coupled with fluid gameplay it is awesome. I can't imagine someone purchasing and being disappointed with the display or emulation.

I don't usually gush but I'm happy to revisit my childhood on the "Go", being an older guy I had all these systems (except Atari 7800, Lynx, or PC Engine CD) growing up and couldn't have imagined we would eventually carry a device with such a vast library of games across multiple systems with all day battery life.

The Hardkernel team have really hit this one out of the park.
I am very glad to hear it. If I can play Legend of Dragoon on PS1 without weird graphical glitches I will be in heaven. I am so excited for this thing to ship!

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Unread post by meveric » Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:11 am

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I am very glad to hear it. If I can play Legend of Dragoon on PS1 without weird graphical glitches I will be in heaven. I am so excited for this thing to ship!
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Unread post by Dr.Methyl » Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:49 pm

Do you have openGL antialiasing on the psx games ?

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Do you have openGL antialiasing on the psx games ?
No, the emulator uses a NEON based software renderer with hardware bicubic hermite sampling for presentation.
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Unread post by maratnugmanov » Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:36 am

I wonder why 480x320 screen was chosen, no pixel perfect scaling for PS1, only Gameboy series.

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maratnugmanov wrote:I wonder why 480x320 screen was chosen, no pixel perfect scaling for PS1, only Gameboy series.
You can't tell, PS1 games are beautiful.

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Okay, maybe I'm an idiot, but how did you get PlayStastion to work? I've used .pbp, .iso, .bin and put them in the Playstation and PSP folders and in neither case did either show up after I restarted Emulationstation. Am I missing something here? I've been trying to run Gran Turismo 2, and it's not showing no matter what I do. I can get GB, GBA, Snes working (somewhat) though. So I know it's picking those up, but it's acting like my PSX files don't exist?

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deerwings wrote:Okay, maybe I'm an idiot, but how did you get PlayStastion to work? I've used .pbp, .iso, .bin and put them in the Playstation and PSP folders and in neither case did either show up after I restarted Emulationstation. Am I missing something here? I've been trying to run Gran Turismo 2, and it's not showing no matter what I do. I can get GB, GBA, Snes working (somewhat) though. So I know it's picking those up, but it's acting like my PSX files don't exist?
I just put the ISOs in the PlayStation folder and restart ES.

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rooted wrote:
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deerwings wrote:Okay, maybe I'm an idiot, but how did you get PlayStastion to work? I've used .pbp, .iso, .bin and put them in the Playstation and PSP folders and in neither case did either show up after I restarted Emulationstation. Am I missing something here? I've been trying to run Gran Turismo 2, and it's not showing no matter what I do. I can get GB, GBA, Snes working (somewhat) though. So I know it's picking those up, but it's acting like my PSX files don't exist?
I just put the ISOs in the PlayStation folder and restart ES.
Hmm. That's what I did and it's just not registering them. I did fiddle with something and stuck a file with a .iso extension in the PSP folder and it DID recognize a file there but of course it didn't run, but renaming it back to the correct filename made it vanish again.

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Unread post by rooted » Sat Feb 08, 2020 7:39 am

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rooted wrote:
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deerwings wrote:Okay, maybe I'm an idiot, but how did you get PlayStastion to work? I've used .pbp, .iso, .bin and put them in the Playstation and PSP folders and in neither case did either show up after I restarted Emulationstation. Am I missing something here? I've been trying to run Gran Turismo 2, and it's not showing no matter what I do. I can get GB, GBA, Snes working (somewhat) though. So I know it's picking those up, but it's acting like my PSX files don't exist?
I just put the ISOs in the PlayStation folder and restart ES.
Hmm. That's what I did and it's just not registering them. I did fiddle with something and stuck a file with a .iso extension in the PSP folder and it DID recognize a file there but of course it didn't run, but renaming it back to the correct filename made it vanish again.
You are certain the ROM you have is for PlayStation and is in ISO format?

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rooted wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 7:39 am
deerwings wrote:
rooted wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 7:16 am
deerwings wrote:Okay, maybe I'm an idiot, but how did you get PlayStastion to work? I've used .pbp, .iso, .bin and put them in the Playstation and PSP folders and in neither case did either show up after I restarted Emulationstation. Am I missing something here? I've been trying to run Gran Turismo 2, and it's not showing no matter what I do. I can get GB, GBA, Snes working (somewhat) though. So I know it's picking those up, but it's acting like my PSX files don't exist?
I just put the ISOs in the PlayStation folder and restart ES.
Hmm. That's what I did and it's just not registering them. I did fiddle with something and stuck a file with a .iso extension in the PSP folder and it DID recognize a file there but of course it didn't run, but renaming it back to the correct filename made it vanish again.
You are certain the ROM you have is for PlayStation and is in ISO format?
Yes, I've been using the same files for years through a variety of emulators. I'm trying a different SD card now, it might be the card I have doing something weird with the image.

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Unread post by crashoverride » Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:33 am

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how did you get PlayStastion to work? I've used .pbp, .iso, .bin and put them in the Playstation and PSP folders and in neither case did either show up after I restarted Emulationstation.
PS1 looks for "*.cue" files. PSP looks for "*.iso" files.

This information can be viewed (and changed) in EmulationStation's /etc/emulationstation/es_systems.cfg
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how did you get PlayStastion to work? I've used .pbp, .iso, .bin and put them in the Playstation and PSP folders and in neither case did either show up after I restarted Emulationstation.
PS1 looks for "*.cue" files. PSP looks for "*.iso" files.

This information can be viewed (and changed) in EmulationStation's /etc/emulationstation/es_systems.cfg
Well that makes sense then, I haven't added any more files since I first got the device so I forgot it looked for cue/bin.

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Unread post by deerwings » Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:18 am

Oh for the love of...

You'd think I'd have remembered to check/replace the stock es_systems.cfg with a custom one that had been tweaked up. Problem solved.

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Unread post by rooted » Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:37 am

deerwings wrote:Oh for the love of...

You'd think I'd have remembered to check/replace the stock es_systems.cfg with a custom one that had been tweaked up. Problem solved.
Enjoy your device, it's a great little system with a bright future.

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rooted wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:37 am
deerwings wrote:Oh for the love of...

You'd think I'd have remembered to check/replace the stock es_systems.cfg with a custom one that had been tweaked up. Problem solved.
Enjoy your device, it's a great little system with a bright future.
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deerwings wrote:
rooted wrote:
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deerwings wrote:Oh for the love of...

You'd think I'd have remembered to check/replace the stock es_systems.cfg with a custom one that had been tweaked up. Problem solved.
Enjoy your device, it's a great little system with a bright future.
I'm liking it a bit so far. There's a few little quirks I didn't realize, such as the lack of volume controls as I was expecting to be default like the Odroid-Go (The Batocera Linux build actually has II and III configured as volume controls somehow) and the fact I can't seem to modify the screen ratio in a game or affect the hotkeys and am still working those out, but all in all I'm pretty happy with it. Already borked one of the screws but that's why I bought a couple spare shells.
You can control the volume, press the menu button before you enter a game. These quirk's will be worked out, the software is not mature as it's new.

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Unread post by deerwings » Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:26 pm

rooted wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 12:52 pm
deerwings wrote:
rooted wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:37 am
deerwings wrote:Oh for the love of...

You'd think I'd have remembered to check/replace the stock es_systems.cfg with a custom one that had been tweaked up. Problem solved.
Enjoy your device, it's a great little system with a bright future.
I'm liking it a bit so far. There's a few little quirks I didn't realize, such as the lack of volume controls as I was expecting to be default like the Odroid-Go (The Batocera Linux build actually has II and III configured as volume controls somehow) and the fact I can't seem to modify the screen ratio in a game or affect the hotkeys and am still working those out, but all in all I'm pretty happy with it. Already borked one of the screws but that's why I bought a couple spare shells.
You can control the volume, press the menu button before you enter a game. These quirk's will be worked out, the software is not mature as it's new.
Understood. I also have an RG350 but I'm waiting until the software for the Odroid-Go Advance matures a bit with better configuration before making a side by side comparison, but I gotta say, what is working so far is EXTREMELY good.

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Unread post by rooted » Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:03 pm

Now that the device is shipping I think the community support is going to be as good or better than what the RG350 receives. Third party support is already ramping up nicely.

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rooted wrote:
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Now that the device is shipping I think the community support is going to be as good or better than what the RG350 receives. Third party support is already ramping up nicely.
That's what I expect! I tested PSP on this last night with Lego Star Wars and it ran amazingly well (Occasionall stutter from time to time, probably due to SD Card). I'd been futzing with it most of the day so I didn't really sit and play much of anything for too long, but what I did play ran beautifully. Haven't tried Saturn, as I don't have any Saturn ISO's yet.

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Unread post by deerwings » Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:13 pm

Check that, Dante's Inferno runs like crap, so PSP emulation is still spotty.

So your PSP games will definintely be hit or miss.

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Unread post by rooted » Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:11 pm

Yeah I have a PSP and Vita so I'm not into these games through emulation so I haven't really tested them much.

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Yeah I have a PSP and Vita so I'm not into these games through emulation so I haven't really tested them much.
Yeah, I do too. It's more of a benchmark at this point. I've got a number of different devices that all claim to emulate PSP, but none of them do it properly. This is one of the first ones I've done that actually emulates at least one PSP title that doesn't run terribly. Dante's Inferno does run, but it's really really sluggish and choppy. I've got a few other PSP things I want to fiddle with, but I need to get some Sega CD titles to play with too. I never grew up with a Sega, so I don't really have any familiarity with Sega titles beyond Sonic.

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Unread post by rooted » Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:12 am

Snatcher is a great game if you like point and click adventures, Rise of the Dragon is also and it has some side scrolling. One of if not the best console renditions of Mortal Kombat is on Sega CD. Ecco the Dolphin is great too.

There are quite a few others I can't think of right now.
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Unread post by dmckean44 » Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:31 am

For Sega CD, I like The Terminator, Robo Aleste and Lunar.

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Unread post by rooted » Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:06 am

dmckean44 wrote:For Sega CD, I like The Terminator, Robo Aleste and Lunar.
Isn't Lunar dual disk? If so that will be a problem with ES since it doesn't have a way to change disks that I know of.

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It's single disk, only these are multiple:

Dracula Unleashed (2 discs)

Fahrenheit (2 discs)

Ground Zero Texas (2 discs)

Night Trap (2 discs)

Sherlock Holmes - Consulting Detective Volume II (2 discs)

Slam City with Scottie Pippen (4 discs)


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Unread post by meveric » Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:25 am

This depends on the Emulator and Frontend you use.
With retrorun from @crashoverride it's not possible, even using retroarch and Genesis-Plus-GX core it's not possible.
But with retroarch and picodrive core it's working fine and you have an option to switch CDs.
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Unread post by rooted » Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:30 am

meveric wrote:This depends on the Emulator and Frontend you use.
With retrorun from @crashoverride it's not possible, even using retroarch and Genesis-Plus-GX core it's not possible.
But with retroarch and picodrive core it's working fine and you have an option to switch CDs.
I should have made it clear I was referring to the Hardkernel supplied image, thank you for pointing out it is possible.

Thankfully only one game (IMO) worth playing is multi-disk and I'm not concerned with revisiting it currently, but I did enjoy Sherlock Holmes back when it was released and it's certainly worth a playthrough for those who haven't.

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Unread post by meveric » Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:43 am

retrorun is way to limited to support this scenario.
maybe exiting the game (autosave) exchange the cd image with the same name but disc two and restarting the game that it may be found as CD 2, but I doubt that. It probably is searching for the "eject" event of a CD and does not permanently scan for the CD.
Your game in particular also exists for the PC Engine CD (TurboGrafx CD) and there is only a single CD.
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Unread post by NitroMTFan » Sat Feb 15, 2020 2:44 pm

Hey everyone, I'm super new at this so please bear with me. I just received the odroid go Advance and wrote the os image to my sd card through etcher. I can start the odroid and it shows the hardkernel boot screen and then only shows the configuration tab. How do I add games to my sd card and have my odroid recognize them? If you can, please explain each step thoroughly. I'm on a fairly good computer running windows 10. It's starting to bug me that I have no clue how to add a game to this machine. Thank you.

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Unread post by NitroMTFan » Sat Feb 15, 2020 2:52 pm

If you can, please also message me on how to do this after you post the answer. It seems everyone on here has it figured out. I would love to be able to play on this machine everywhere I go. Thanks again.

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Unread post by rooted » Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:06 pm

NitroMTFan wrote:If you can, please also message me on how to do this after you post the answer. It seems everyone on here has it figured out. I would love to be able to play on this machine everywhere I go. Thanks again.
See this post, after you change your configuration your games will likely show up:

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Unread post by NitroMTFan » Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:17 pm

Thank you! How do I open the code that shows this on my comp?

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Unread post by rooted » Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:24 pm

NitroMTFan wrote:Thank you! How do I open the code that shows this on my comp?
See this:

https://wiki.odroid.com/odroid_go_advan ... _game_roms

It isn't as easy as if you were running Linux unfortunately, but after installing Paragon for Windows then you can access the ext4 (Linux) formatted drive.

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Unread post by NitroMTFan » Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:31 pm

Thank you for the quick response. I'm going to try both of these out. It seems like a definite fix to the problem I'm having. If not, I'll jump back on here. Am I able to message you for some help if I still cannot figure this out? I'm new on here so I do not think that's allowed. I'll just post back on here if not. Thank you again for the help. I didn't know where to turn. I will also get Paragon and try that out.

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Unread post by rooted » Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:42 pm

NitroMTFan wrote:Thank you for the quick response. I'm going to try both of these out. It seems like a definite fix to the problem I'm having. If not, I'll jump back on here. Am I able to message you for some help if I still cannot figure this out? I'm new on here so I do not think that's allowed. I'll just post back on here if not. Thank you again for the help. I didn't know where to turn. I will also get Paragon and try that out.
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Unread post by NitroMTFan » Sun Feb 16, 2020 7:29 am

Got it! This is freaking awesome. Thank you for the help! It kind of took me a bit longer than I thought it would. I used the Retro Arena OS from the forum. Installed a couple NES, SNES, and PSP games I have. All of them are working perfectly except Gran Turismo for PSP. It's super choppy. It says something about changing the framerate. Does anyone know how to do that? And if I do change the frame rate will that affect all of my other games when I start them or just Gran Turismo? Final Fantasy is working perfectly on the PSP though and i'm loving it. Well let me know when you get a chance. Back to Final Fantasy lol, thanks again!

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