Unified OS runs Debian and Android applications

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Unified OS runs Debian and Android applications

Unread postby Vasant » Thu May 04, 2017 2:40 am

Hi,

You can now buy our VOLKSPC distribution (http://www.volkspc.org) for ODROID-C2.
Here is a clip of how this works:


We continue to provide free download for ODROID-C1+.
Our XFCE implementation is faster than any stand alone Ubuntu/Debian.
Still Firefox on Odroid-C2 is a bit sluggish. But if you install Chrome browser on Android you
end with a very usable system.

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Re: Unified OS runs Debian and Android applications

Unread postby mad_ady » Wed May 10, 2017 2:16 am

Great release! Have you tried if things like c2play works under your debian instance?
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Re: Unified OS runs Debian and Android applications

Unread postby Vasant » Wed May 10, 2017 9:51 am

I am not too familiar with c2play, I just googled for it. I am sure it can be made to work with our version of Debian. Right now the Debian root fs doesn't have any device specific acceleration libraries. Android has many applications capable of playing HD videos and they are all easy to install and run on VOLKSPC OS.

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Re: Unified OS runs Debian and Android applications

Unread postby odroid » Wed May 10, 2017 10:12 am

Nice development! Tons of Debian packages can run with Android in parallel. :o
Consider writing an article on our Magazine.
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Re: Unified OS runs Debian and Android applications

Unread postby rooted » Wed May 10, 2017 11:26 am

I have a question regarding the price, does this include updates and if so for how long?

It is very nice and I know you have worked on it for years, the price is good I'm just wondering about support and updates.
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Re: Unified OS runs Debian and Android applications

Unread postby mad_ady » Wed May 10, 2017 2:36 pm

If you're writing an article, I'd love to hear about the technical bits - how is linux's display manager integrated in android. And also - what kind of kernel you are using and what is the update procedure
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Re: Unified OS runs Debian and Android applications

Unread postby rooted » Wed May 10, 2017 4:20 pm

microxwin, not sure, me too :)
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Re: Unified OS runs Debian and Android applications

Unread postby Vasant » Thu May 11, 2017 4:02 am

September, 2015 issue of ODROID magazine has an article about our implementation on ODROID-C1. We use our graphics stack (microxwin) instead of X11. The ODROID-C2 port is similar except that being a faster platform with more memory the user experience is very good.

Regarding upgrades, the current Debian root fs is based on Jessie. We will provide a free update to Stretch when it gets released. It is easy to update from Android VOLKSPC installer.
Also from within Debian you should be able to always update to the latest via apt-get upgrade command. Since Debian root fs is shared between all platforms, we will always keep it updated and available for download.

Android on the other hand needs a complete reinstall. If there is a critical issue we will provide a free update and we will also do the same if HK ever implements Noughat on ODROID-C2.

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Re: Unified OS runs Debian and Android applications

Unread postby mad_ady » Thu May 11, 2017 1:27 pm

I'm guessing the rootfs (and Android) run armhf code - not arm64, right?
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Re: Unified OS runs Debian and Android applications

Unread postby Vasant » Fri May 12, 2017 12:31 am

That is correct. It is 32 bit user space and 64 bit kernel.
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Re: Unified OS runs Debian and Android applications

Unread postby Vasant » Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:26 am

In case some of you are wondering how VOLKSPC desktop compares against the official Ubuntu Mate desktop, here is a video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jmvYryz2hw&t=11s

I have summarized the results here.
Ubuntu 16.0.4.2 AARCH64 Mate desktop.
After boot up lxtask shows 392MB free from available 1717MB. Gtkperf takes 13.89 seconds for 100 iterations.

VOLKSPC Jessie 8.8 ARMHF XFCE desktop.
After boot up lxtask shows 390MB free from available 1717MB. Gtkperf takes 7.89 seconds for 100 iterations.

So as expected, our 2D graphics performance is much faster while memory usage is about the same. In case of VOLKPC OS after boot up Android is also running.
Another thing to take note is that client-server X11 runs on 2 core when running gtkperf benchmark while in case of MicroXwin gtkperf is rendering directly on one core.

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Re: Unified OS runs Debian and Android applications

Unread postby Vasant » Mon Aug 07, 2017 3:19 am

We have updated the Debian XFCE image.
1. It is now based on the latest 8.9 Jessie release.
2. Default theme has been modernized to use Faenza Icons and Whisker menu plugin. It is still configurable by user.
3. Fixed problems with running applications based on WxGTK3 toolkit.

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Re: Unified OS runs Debian and Android applications

Unread postby Vasant » Sat Nov 18, 2017 3:21 pm

The Debian XFCE image has been updated to the latest and some issues fixed.
- xmodmap was not installed on the rootfs even though we use it for non US keyboard configuration.
- added script (installcups) to simplify installation of CUPS.
- on startup we show message to force user to read the release notes. It is amazing how many users
don't read the release notes and then complain about not knowing how to switch between Linux and Android.

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Re: Unified OS runs Debian and Android applications

Unread postby rooted » Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:36 pm

It's great that you continue updating this thread, thanks.
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Re: Unified OS runs Debian and Android applications

Unread postby Vasant » Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:40 am

The Debian XFCE image has been updated to Stretch. You can download it from http://volkspc.org/installation/
Let me know if you run into issue.

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Re: Unified OS runs Debian and Android applications

Unread postby Vasant » Tue May 15, 2018 6:55 am

The Android image has been synced to the latest release. Also the VOLKSPC installer has been updated. It has the option now to resize the Debian partition.

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