ODROID-Go Super

macromorgan · Post by **macromorgan** » Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:07 pm

odroid wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:48 pm

macromorgan wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:40 pm
Do you know if/when the schematics will be available?
We have no plan to release the OGS schematics due to copycats.

Okay, well, hope your engineers like questions.

animeware · Post by **animeware** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:36 am

you can pre order Odroid Go Super here
https://ameridroid.com/products/odroid- ... fbdc&_ss=r

royger · Post by **royger** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:57 am

animeware wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:36 am
you can pre order Odroid Go Super here
https://ameridroid.com/products/odroid- ... fbdc&_ss=r

Will those get shipped before the ones from the HardKernel store?

Ameridroid · Post by **Ameridroid** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:24 am

No. Our order is underway, but HardKernel will probably be able to ship sooner. We are just allowing customers to reserve their place in line by placing their preorder request.

Post by **odroid** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:01 pm

A demo video has released.
https://youtu.be/RJmF2mKxgKs

mad_ady · Post by **mad_ady** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:11 pm

Portrait Mame looks very nice!

Is it the normal screen orientation, or is it rotated 180 degrees?

Post by **odroid** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:31 pm

It is a 180° rotation.

A new reference OS image has released.
viewtopic.php?p=319190#p319190

ME88 · Post by **ME88** » Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:39 am

Next week is late January

Any indication how many units will be available and when is the sale starting next week

Slaminger · Post by **Slaminger** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:52 am

The Retro Arena OGA/OGS RC1 is now public and can be located at this link:
https://techtoytinker.com/odroid-go-advance

Post by **odroid** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:36 pm

You can order the OGS now.
Dim Gray version: https://www.hardkernel.com/shop/odroid- ... -dim-gray/
Clear White version: https://www.hardkernel.com/shop/odroid- ... ear-white/

venn189 · Post by **venn189** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:47 pm

A few questions to those who have used the OGS preview units:
1) Does the os come pre-installed on the unit, or does it run off of the sd card?
2) Is it upgradeable?
3) What version is it? I assume its Linux...
Excited about recieving it and want to hit the ground running!

pagrus · Post by **pagrus** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:05 pm

Why are the batteries listed separately? Just in case you need a spare?

ME88 · Post by **ME88** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:24 pm

Guys I think the website is having issues!
I keep getting 502 bad gateway

Edit:

Never mind it is working again

Post by **odroid** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:34 pm

venn189 wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:47 pm
A few questions to those who have used the OGS preview units:
1) Does the os come pre-installed on the unit, or does it run off of the sd card?
2) Is it upgradeable?
3) What version is it? I assume its Linux...
Excited about recieving it and want to hit the ground running!

1. No. You need to flash the OS image to your own SD card.
2. If you connect a WiFi or Ethernet adapter, you can upgrade. But it depends on the OS images developers. There are 5~6 different OS images at least.
3. Kernel version is 4.9.y.

Post by **odroid** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:35 pm

pagrus wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:05 pm
Why are the batteries listed separately? Just in case you need a spare?

Just a spare part.

Post by **odroid** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:37 pm

ME88 wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:24 pm
Guys I think the website is having issues!
I keep getting 502 bad gateway

Edit:
Never mind it is working again

The server is in an unstable state because there are a lot of visitors to the server.

rooted · Post by **rooted** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:20 pm

A lot of traffic is a good sign I guess.

miki151 · Post by **miki151** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:53 pm

I've been looking for a Linux-based handheld console for a while and this seems to be perfect, just ordered one. I'm excited to port my games to it, is there any tutorial on cross-compiling C/C++ programs to it from PC Linux?

rooted · Post by **rooted** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:44 pm

miki151 wrote:I've been looking for a Linux-based handheld console for a while and this seems to be perfect, just ordered one. I'm excited to port my games to it, is there any tutorial on cross-compiling C/C++ programs to it from PC Linux?

You don't have to cross compile, you can install the build tools using apt and build on the device.

miki151 · Post by **miki151** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:50 am

Awesome! Any idea how much slower compilation would be than on a typical PC?

mad_ady · Post by **mad_ady** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:05 am

On the go it will be significantly slower, but low ram will be a big concern for big projects. Typically people use a board like N2 to compile because it has a bigger cpu/more ram.
But for casual compiling, the go is fine...

miki151 · Post by **miki151** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 5:10 am

I see. I have one project that takes a lot of resources to compile, but I'll figure out cross-compilation somehow.

benjammin · Post by **benjammin** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:10 am

Is the super clear white already sold out, or is it not available yet? Excited to buy one!

Post by **odroid** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:27 am

benjammin wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:10 am
Is the super clear white already sold out, or is it not available yet? Excited to buy one!

The clear white one was sold out. The next production batch will be available ~5 weeks later.

glebm · Post by **glebm** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:20 am

Would it be possible to order a development unit (with a UART connector and a hole)? I'm truly terrible at soldering.

Post by **odroid** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:00 am

We have no plan to sell a developers' version due to very limited human resources. Sorry about that.

mad_ady · Post by **mad_ady** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 2:03 pm

glebm wrote:Would it be possible to order a development unit (with a UART connector and a hole)? I'm truly terrible at soldering.

If you don't need to debug uboot you can redirect kernel messages and console to the uart port on the exposed gpio pins

Post by **odroid** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 2:28 pm

mad_ady wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 26, 2021 2:03 pm

glebm wrote:Would it be possible to order a development unit (with a UART connector and a hole)? I'm truly terrible at soldering.
If you don't need to debug uboot you can redirect kernel messages and console to the uart port on the exposed gpio pins

Unfortunately, the GPIO pin map on the 10pin header socket was changed a lot.
https://wiki.odroid.com/odroid_go_super ... escription

mad_ady · Post by **mad_ady** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:00 pm

Hmm, no uart...
Maybe something like this would work: https://github.com/themrleon/RpiSoft-UART, but most likely couldn't be used as a kernel console, only as a login shell...

royger · Post by **royger** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 5:03 pm

odroid wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:00 am
We have no plan to sell a developers' version due to very limited human resources. Sorry about that.

I'm happy to solder the serial header myself, but would be good if you could sell extra plastic back parts, so that I can drill a hole on mine and know I will be able to replace it with a non-drilled part once I'm done with the debugging (or just want to play). Thanks!

lethal_guitar · Post by **lethal_guitar** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 5:47 pm

miki151 wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:50 am
Awesome! Any idea how much slower compilation would be than on a typical PC?

For some concrete numbers: A full rebuild of my project takes 40s on my Desktop (8-core i7 9700k CPU), and roughly an hour on the OGA. Afterwards, incremental builds that touch only 1 or 2 files are pretty quick even on the device.

My project is roughly 30k lines of code, plus some libraries that are part of the build, so maybe it's around 40 or 50k overall. It uses a lot of modern C++, STL and a decent amount of templates, so it's on the slower side wrt compile times.. A project using C or a more limited subset of C++ usually compiles faster.

One thing to be aware of is that you mostly want to avoid building multithreaded (i.e. make -jN, or using ninja with default settings). The problem is that even though the OGA has multiple cores, it's easy to use up all RAM by spawning multiple gcc processes, and once that happens it starts swapping to SD card and that's reaaaaallly slow.

glebm · Post by **glebm** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:39 pm

Debugging uboot is exactly what I need UART for
Currently sending kernel images to a guy who does have UART and getting responses back a day later
Very inefficient

## Flattened Device Tree blob at 01f00000
Booting using the fdt blob at 0x1f00000
Loading Kernel Image ... OK
Loading Ramdisk to 31be3000, end 31caea00 ... OK
ERROR: image is not a fdt - must RESET the board to recover.
FDT creation failed! hanging...### ERROR ### Please RESET the board ###

miki151 · Post by **miki151** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:10 pm

lethal_guitar wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 26, 2021 5:47 pm
For some concrete numbers: A full rebuild of my project takes 40s on my Desktop (8-core i7 9700k CPU), and roughly an hour on the OGA. Afterwards, incremental builds that touch only 1 or 2 files are pretty quick even on the device.

It sounds like the size is very similar to my project, which also uses a lot of C++ and templates, so I'll definitely be looking at cross compilation before trying to port it. But it's good to know that otherwise compiling works well on the device, since I'll also be playing around with smaller games.

glebm · Post by **glebm** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:13 pm

Nevermind, I found the issue. dtb load address must be different if using aarch64 mode (0x1000000 instead of 0x01f00000)

venn189 · Post by **venn189** » Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:13 am

So, ordered, and waiting for it to arrive! Anyone have a preference as to the "best" version of the os to use?

mad_ady · Post by **mad_ady** » Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:21 am

venn189 wrote:So, ordered, and waiting for it to arrive! Anyone have a preference as to the "best" version of the os to use?

I hope some youtuber will make a video showcase of available images (for gaming or general purpose)

rooted · Post by **rooted** » Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:31 am

venn189 wrote:So, ordered, and waiting for it to arrive! Anyone have a preference as to the "best" version of the os to use?

Personally I run the crashoverride/hardkernel provided image and am happy with it.

tveith · Post by **tveith** » Fri Jan 29, 2021 6:53 am

I just created the image on a 400GB microsd card. I'm trying to resize the partition using mini tool partition -- didn't work. Then tried DiskGenius -- didn't work, errors. The image burned successfully with Etcher so I'm not sure what the problem is. I've never had problems resizing ext4 partitions in the past. I receive the Odroid Go Super on Monday so I was hoping to burn the image, resize it, and add my games prior to receiving it. Any advice? Can you resize the partition to use remaining space using the Odroid Go Super itself? Thanks.

notime2d8 · Post by **notime2d8** » Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:14 am

tveith wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 29, 2021 6:53 am
I just created the image on a 400GB microsd card. I'm trying to resize the partition using mini tool partition -- didn't work. Then tried DiskGenius -- didn't work, errors. The image burned successfully with Etcher so I'm not sure what the problem is. I've never had problems resizing ext4 partitions in the past. I receive the Odroid Go Super on Monday so I was hoping to burn the image, resize it, and add my games prior to receiving it. Any advice? Can you resize the partition to use remaining space using the Odroid Go Super itself? Thanks.

I don't think that's going to be possible, most distributions resize automatically on first boot and also creates all of the ROM folders.

tveith · Post by **tveith** » Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:16 am

notime2d8 wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:14 am

tveith wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 29, 2021 6:53 am
I just created the image on a 400GB microsd card. I'm trying to resize the partition using mini tool partition -- didn't work. Then tried DiskGenius -- didn't work, errors. The image burned successfully with Etcher so I'm not sure what the problem is. I've never had problems resizing ext4 partitions in the past. I receive the Odroid Go Super on Monday so I was hoping to burn the image, resize it, and add my games prior to receiving it. Any advice? Can you resize the partition to use remaining space using the Odroid Go Super itself? Thanks.
I don't think that's going to be possible, most distributions resize automatically on first boot and also creates all of the ROM folders.

OK thanks -- this is my first Odroid handheld, I'm coming from Raspberry Pi where I was able to resize the partitions this way. I'll wait until I receive my Odroid Go Super on Monday. Once I run it for the first time, I'll check it out and see if it auto expands. Thanks for your reply.

Post by **odroid** » Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:16 am

The first production batch sold out.
The next batch will be available in late February.

BTW, this thread is locked.
Feel free to post a new topic on this OGS/OGA sub-forum.
viewforum.php?f=186

Post by **odroid** » Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:59 pm

The second batch is ready to ship.
You can order it now from the following links.

Dim Gray :https://www.hardkernel.com/shop/odroid- ... -dim-gray/
Clear White: https://www.hardkernel.com/shop/odroid- ... ear-white/