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N2 for DJing on NON-Intel

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Let the MUSIC play !

I am happy with the Odroid N2 4GB EXCEPT I am waiting for later builds of Ubuntu
for DJ Mixxx to be running faster.

Also I am unable to watch Audacity capture vinyl using Audio Technica LP-120 X USB turntable that is sold
everywhere.
I suspect the issue is USB is single I/O multiplexed and video is not accelerated.

Is there a USB 3.0 option board that has separate USB ports ?
Three of the four ports are in use for Wifi, BT, and 2.4 ghz keyboard mouse dongle.

I also added Akai MPK mini play Midi keyboard and Numark Party Mix Midi controller with dual stereo audio.

Specs indicat it handle the CPU load but USB I/O is inadequate.

See it on streaming Win 10 Intel here ->

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Re: N2 for DJing on NON-Intel

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OK, so now it is working !?

Sound out DEFAULT (audio jack) playing with working Volume Control in XFCE4 panel widget.

Writing this reply with out hang on ETH0 connection.
Buffering is way behind display but uninterrupted.
I'll need to redo as I don't know what happened when I stopped when sound ended but
sampled wave was still filling in.

I saved it and will look at redo to compare with odd behavior observed.

Trick may have been using USB 2.0 on OTG instead of USB 2.0 device on USB3.1 N2 connection.

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$ lsusb
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 05e3:0620 Genesys Logic, Inc. 
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 012: ID 08bb:29c0 Texas Instruments PCM2900C Audio CODEC
Bus 001 Device 011: ID 05e3:0606 Genesys Logic, Inc. USB 2.0 Hub / D-Link DUB-H4 USB 2.0 Hub
Bus 001 Device 008: ID 09e8:0044 AKAI  Professional M.I. Corp. 
Bus 001 Device 007: ID 15e4:0038 Numark 
Bus 001 Device 006: ID 05e3:0608 Genesys Logic, Inc. Hub
Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0bda:a811 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. 
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 3938:1032  
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode)
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 05e3:0610 Genesys Logic, Inc. 4-port hub
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

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Re: N2 for DJing on NON-Intel

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If anyone is also exploring this app then be sure to read about WAYLAND here

I am still struggling with audio as my other post at Re: Debian/Ubuntu Netboot Installer
Post by CoolGames » Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:03 pm


New problem I am starting to pursue is

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$ mixxx -platform xcb
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
I notice there is no snd-seq module so now this behemoth PATCH.txt effort

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Re: N2 for DJing on NON-Intel

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CoolGames wrote:
Sun Mar 15, 2020 3:13 am
If anyone is also exploring this app then be sure to read about WAYLAND here

I am still struggling with audio as my other post at Re: Debian/Ubuntu Netboot Installer
Post by CoolGames » Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:03 pm


New problem I am starting to pursue is

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$ mixxx -platform xcb
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
I notice there is no snd-seq module so now this behemoth PATCH.txt effort
I am wondering if you need Wayland support to run mixx. I've read the link about Wayland issue for mixxx and if you do not need very high-performance graphics, you could ignore installing the package mali-bifrost-wayland-driver and this will let you run the desktop but the graphics would be a bit slow but kinda ok.

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I will use Mixxx in what ever way it works without "patches".
It is not a priority.
I have determined that Mixxx is less popular for end users and developers so not worth stressing over.
It can wait.
More important to get your work tested than distracting with my vision.

I like the N2 on attached monitor near the couch sitting on the arm as alternative to hot laptop.
The coffee table is my sandbox and a laptop restricts movement and is uncomfortable .

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I am writing this reply using Android 9 pico and running Google Chrome from Play Store
using USB RF keyboard and mouse on the OTG micro USB 2.0 to avoid speed issues in USB 3.0 hub
and Bose Build Cube connected to headphone jack (I2C in settings) to play music with light show with out involving TV sound.




Chrome on Odroid N2 in forums
Chrome on Odroid N2 in forums
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tobetter wrote:
Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:20 pm
CoolGames wrote:
Sun Mar 15, 2020 3:13 am
If anyone is also exploring this app then be sure to read about WAYLAND here

I am still struggling with audio as my other post at Re: Debian/Ubuntu Netboot Installer
Post by CoolGames » Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:03 pm


New problem I am starting to pursue is

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$ mixxx -platform xcb
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
This problem went away but...

I notice there is no snd-seq module so now this behemoth PATCH.txt effort

Update for all readers...


I tried Ubuntu 20.04 server version from work in process then added Mali-Wayland-Bifrost and installed Ubuntu Studio Desktop to get as many packages to test as possible.
The audio was a disaster when Meson64 DTB was used and Meson G12 DTB was what software was expecting.
dmesg showed errors (-22) meaning that wrong arguments being passed thus confirming this suspicion.

I am now trying the Odroid N2 with latest Android 9 with Play Store installed booting from Samsung EVO 32 GB uSD.
Wallpaper seems incorrectly centered so using Image 2 Wallpaper to shift 1920 x 1080 left to visually center.



As far as graphics issues...

I am planning to find a DJ mix app that works with the Android 9 in tablet mode though most in Play store warn of possible incompatibility.
Since Odroid N2 has no multi touch when used with keyboard mouse I expect issues.
I already see apps opening in portrait as though on a cell phone.
Also I expect performance hits thus my interest in getting Ubuntu Studio 20.04 running.

tobetter wrote:
Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:20 pm
I am wondering if you need Wayland support to run mixx. I've read the link about Wayland issue for mixxx and if you do not need very high-performance graphics, you could ignore installing the package mali-bifrost-wayland-driver and this will let you run the desktop but the graphics would be a bit slow but kinda ok.

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[SOLVED !?] N2 for DJing on NON-Intel

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Success !

Ubuntu without Wayland on 20.04 running Mixxx

tobetter wrote:
Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:20 pm
I am wondering if you need Wayland support to run mixx. I've read the link about Wayland issue for mixxx and if you do not need very high-performance graphics, you could ignore installing the package mali-bifrost-wayland-driver and this will let you run the desktop but the graphics would be a bit slow but kinda ok.
Mixxx sound outputs are two external stereo connections through Numark Party Mix MIDI controller.

Mixxx controls required the addition of
Numark-Party-Mix with Lights.zip
Patch from Mixxx forum
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Here it is playing music !
Here it is playing music !
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If you been watching this project evolve then this is a measure of success.

I really appreciate @tobetter 's work in progress

Hope you all get to hear the music when everything is connected together and works for you as well


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MALI issues - Re: N2 for DJing on NON-Intel

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System working without in development FBDEV driver
tobetter wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 9:31 pm
Can you please test with other OS image or the Petitboot if you can have a video signal with your TV?
As you had seen the log, your board failed to get display info which would not display anything to your TV.
Please let me know if other OS works.
CoolGames wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 2:07 am
tobetter wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 9:31 pm
Can you please test with other OS image or the Petitboot if you can have a video signal with your TV? As you had seen the log, your board failed to get display info which would not display anything to your TV. Please let me know if other OS works.
I tried to post before switching to SD with Android 9 20200520 but don't see that it submitted.
Then I again tried to submit with Android 9 Chrome and it also never succeeded so I may have exited too quickly to reboot as alternate OS.

Anyway,
Android 9 on SD works best with eMMC with non-wayland 20.04 removed and switch to MMC not SPI.
It hangs if eMMC present and use Petitboot to select Android 9.

I also observed that SPI switched for PB-EVENT install and then boot causes the loss of sync and display as I just booted eMMC 20.04 as it should with switch MMC after above SD removed.

It may be a non issue.

I am using without mali-bifrost for now to be able to learn Mixxx.
Mixxx is really fast analyzing music when loading as it finds beat and measures.
Numark controller is very responsive and no delay in display.

The PB-EVENT netboot install makes life so much easier to restart to isolate testing scenarios step by step.

I can try another OS next pass if that is needed because SPI/MMC switch is suspect and needs to be verified as reason for loss of signal and display.

Again, thanks @tobetter for all you are doing and have done.

Lee
Now let's help isolate FBDEV issues on working system

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$ sudo apt install mali-bifrost-fbdev-driver
REBOOT with switch in MMC position

Login hangs and using CTL ALT F1 F2 F3 helps find and regain control.
I observe greeter and found it was a second effort and can be identified by lack of DESKTOP selector.
Eventually I found the active DESKTOP that never took control of HDTV like before MALI-BIFROST was installed.

Now Mixx is broken but message may help point to a place to look for the issue's cause.
Looks like a related message.

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$ mixxx
==>[ERROR] (mixxx) EGL: In file: egl/src/winsys/linux/mali_egl_winsys_fbdev.c  line: 195 do_ioctl
ioctl() encountered an unexpected error: 0x10
Aborted (core dumped)

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Re: N2 for DJing on NON-Intel

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Well, are you seeing I am sweating? Hard to catch you up...it's a bit different world what you are doing. But I am trying to read and understand.... :D

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tobetter wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 10:28 am
Well, are you seeing I am sweating? Hard to catch you up...it's a bit different world what you are doing. But I am trying to read and understand.... :D
I started another thread in issues when trying to switch to pxeboot installation.
There is a zip of syslog and dmesg from attempts.

Over here on DJ status I have Mate minimal with odroid-alsa and mixxx working well.
I saw multiple occurrences of greeter (gdm3) and desktop was unstable with meson-bifrost-wayland
as though status indicated no active user so login was available
so I restarted with this known good that has issues with signal and sync.

FYI, image.gz also loses display but has sync.
I expect it has to do with HDTV 1080p and maybe same as 4K issues elsewhere.
My uninformed guess is there needs to be dialog at boot maybe EDID to accurately set frequencies for lock up of sync and display.
my expertise is in television so I will pursue an answer from that direction.
I can try to find specs for native and make a working X config if that ends up being the cause.

I can use working Mate non-wayland to evaluate what is happening.

Still, as always don't sweat this small stuff as others maybe can chip in and help.
We are close to having a working system that meets both our needs although mine may be less popular audience.


The longer range is Plasma desktop on Amlogic Odroid N2 able to run Mixxx on Ubuntu Studio 20.10.
I am starting to see the features of Mixxx in real time audio processing with intensive graphics updating working on the N2 without bifrost or wayland.
I have Ubuntu Studio 20.04 with low latency running System76 drivers on the System 76 Lemur I7 laptop
(cglemur in NFS) running on 6500U Intel with integrated Intel® HD Graphics 520 gpu.

System76 on Github buys hardware
and writes LINUX only Open Source POP! OS Desktop software
so it has same obstacles as Linux on Amlogic Odroid


I will be doing benchmark and explore it's configuration to see why it works with the Insignia 1080p's HDMI2
(same consumer HDTV) without same sync/display failure.



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Looking for EDID Re: N2 for DJing on NON-Intel

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Who is EDID ?
Where does it come from ?


More like what is EDID !
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_Display_Identification_Data wrote:
Extended Display Identification Data (EDID) is a metadata format for display devices to describe their capabilities to a video source (e.g. graphics card or set-top box).
The data format is defined by a standard published by the Video Electronics Standards Association (VESA).
I am comparing my System 76 laptop running same Ubuntu 20.04 and connected
to same external Best Buy Insignia 1080p HDTV as Odroid N2.

Attached are the text files with and with out HDTV connected to isolate the data from laptop display.
EDID_Lemur.txt
External Best Buy 21.5 inch 1080p display (BBY)
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Installed were read-edid and edid-decode and used command line similar to this to create the files.
EDID_Lemur_LCD.txt
Internal laptop display
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$ sudo get-edid | edid-decode > /dev/null
This is read-edid version 3.0.2. Prepare for some fun.
Attempting to use i2c interface
No EDID on bus 2
No EDID on bus 3
No EDID on bus 5
3 potential busses found: 0 1 4
Will scan through until the first EDID is found.
Pass a bus number as an option to this program to go only for that one.
Bus 0 doesn't really have an EDID...
256-byte EDID successfully retrieved from i2c bus 1
If this isn't the EDID you were looking for, consider the other potential busses.
Looks like i2c was successful. Have a good day.
Same command on Odroid N2 with Mate minimal and no bifrost / wayland drivers installed.
If anyone is reading this on working (or not syncing) system try the same command and post text file in reply.

Missing in action !

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$ sudo get-edid | edid-decode > /dev/null
This is read-edid version 3.0.2. Prepare for some fun.
Attempting to use i2c interface
Looks like no busses have an EDID. Sorry!
I'm sorry nothing was successful. Maybe try some other arguments
if you played with them, or send an email to Matthew Kern <pyrophobicman@gmail.com>.
EDID extract of 'stdin' failed



If only I understood KMS language !
Insignia Best Buy TV as laptop and Odroid N2 display
Insignia Best Buy TV as laptop and Odroid N2 display
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Kernel Mode Setting (KMS) is a method for setting
display resolution and depth in the kernel space rather than user space.


Grab from user guide Page 36
Grab from user guide Page 36
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Forcing modes and EDID
If your native resolution is not automatically configured or no display at all is detected,
then your monitor might send none or just a skewed EDID file.
The kernel will try to catch this case and will set one of the most typical resolutions.


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HDMI CEC & DTS - Re: N2 for DJing on NON-Intel

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Just when you thought it was safe to watch TV !

Your TV is watching you !

This is what it takes for developing an
ideal OPEN SOURCE interactive entertainment system !


Topics to consider are found in your display's user manual on the specifications page.

Page 73 of Insignia NS22D describing specs.
Page 73 of Insignia NS22D describing specs.
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HDMI CEC controls both display and device with one remote
Consumer Electronics Control (CEC) is a feature of HDMI designed to control HDMI connected devices[1][2] by using only one remote controller;
so, individual CEC enabled devices can command and control each other without user intervention,
for up to 15 devices.[3]:§CEC-3.1 For example, a television set remote controller can also control a set-top box and a DVD player.
My plan is to use the MIDI controller for all the remote functions at first then later use another wireless on Odroid N2 as a wandering remote !



Then add DTS sound !
OUR PASSION FOR INNOVATION HAS NO LIMITS
Since 1993, DTS has been dedicated to making the world sound better.
and plan for the future !
The MIDI Association’s mission is to nurture an inclusive global community of people who create music and art with MIDI.
Coming soon - Bigger, Better, Faster ...
Coming soon - Bigger, Better, Faster ...
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MIDI 2.0 Means Two-way MIDI Conversations

MIDI 1.0 messages went in one direction: from a transmitter to a receiver. MIDI 2.0 is bi-directional and changes MIDI from a monologue to a dialog.

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Re: N2 for DJing on NON-Intel

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Now June 2020

It has been a month and I am able to maintain productivity with only the Odroid N2 Pro as a daily desktop.
I am able to get the updates and upgrades easily using the pb-event network installer.
I am also avoiding XFCE4 components to be more familiar with Mate , caja and other related applications.
I have Mixxx working using an external USB 2.0 hub instead of the USB 3.0 ports to insure compatible speed that
using the USB 3.0 for USB 2.0 and USB3.0 mix on the internal hub that I have seen mentioned as not optimum.
Because of the Corona virus some video was added using Kodak S100 USB webcam.
I also got Turtle Beach 450 USB rf wireless gaming headphones for talking and listening.

The NuMark Party Mix also has two stereo outputs adding more connections to the system.

I just started trying Hard Info from repository to compare and detect all that is connected.
Hard Info running GPU benchmark test
Hard Info running GPU benchmark test
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Anyone reading this should try this tool for exploration and bench marking the Ubuntu system.
Here is my generated report as printed to PDF.
HardInfo (0.6-alpha) System Report.pdf
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Sound lost on HDMI but moved to headphone.
Hope I can explain the sound issue without making a video.

Updated ODROID-ALSA may have issues after upgrade in that HDMI can pass using test-speaker but not be a selection by control panel.
System volume has no effect on headphone.
Audacious volume has error and not adjustable either.
odroid-alsa (5:0.1+202006171956~focal) focal; urgency=medium
Is date and contents correct ?

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$ ls -lh /etc/asound.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 47 Jun  3 07:18 /etc/asound.conf
$ cat /etc/asound.conf
pcm.!default {
	type hw
	card hdmi
	device 0
}
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Sound set to headphone but HDMI in ETC asound.conf
Sound set to headphone but HDMI in ETC asound.conf
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Here is another test to try the ALSA output settings

Audacity import the previous file(s) and try to play.
There are lots of pops and delays as system tries to respond correctly.

Set up HDMI and use 2 channel loop twice.

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speaker-test -c2 -l 2 -Dhdmi
Audio comes out headphone after 3 second delay NOT HDMI ?
Audio comes out headphone after 3 second delay NOT HDMI ?
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User testing ALSA - Re: N2 for DJing on NON-Intel

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CoolGames wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 8:52 am
Here is another test to try the ALSA output settings



Audacity import the previous file(s) and try to play.
There are lots of pops and delays as system tries to respond correctly.

Set up HDMI and use 2 channel loop twice.

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speaker-test -c2 -l 2 -Dhdmi

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  1. Display ALSA list then test individual devices
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    $ aplay -L
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    speaker-test -c2 -l2 -ts -f440 -S90 -Dhdmi
    - HDMI output
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    speaker-test -c2 -l2 -ts -f440 -S90 -Dfront
    - headphone output
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    $ speaker-test -c2 -l2 -ts -f440 -S90 -Dsysdefault
    - System defaulted (HDMI)
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    $ speaker-test -c2 -l2 -ts -f440 -S90 -Ddefault


    - Control panel selects default pulseaudio output for speaker-test


    User mode testing steps for pulse and alsa from command line

  7. - Create a copy from /etc/pulse/default.pa to manually add HDMI for local user with new line near 50 load-module module-alsa-sink device=hdmi

    Then kill , edit, test with debugging, kill, then finally start as daemon



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    $ cp /etc/pulse/default.pa ~/.config/pulse/default.pa 
    $ pulseaudio -k
    $ gedit ~/.config/pulse/default.pa
    $ pulseaudio -v &
    $ speaker-test -c2 -l2 -ts -f440 -S90 -Ddefault
    $ pulseaudio -k
    $ pulseaudio --start
     
  8. Display and test pulseaudio selected device
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    pacmd -L
    [*]Test pulseaudio DEFAULT device
    [*][code]$ speaker-test -c2 -l2 -ts -f440 -S90 -Ddefault

Summary of lesson

Learn how to use speaker-test

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$ yelp man:speaker-test
Here's your sign !
Here's your sign !
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