Which List for Next Gem (XU5)

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Re: Which List for Next Gem (XU5)

Unread post by elatllat » Sun Dec 17, 2017 3:48 am

rooted wrote:Does the rockchip outperform the exynos 5422?
In some ways rk3328 is better than e5422
  • 370 MB/s aes-xts 512b vs 70 MB/s
  • 4 GB RAM vs 2 GB
  • DDR4 vs DDR3
  • 2160p 10bit h265 vs 1080p h264
in other ways not so much; like the GPU is a MP2 vs a MP6 and software is lacking.
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Re: Which List for Next Gem (XU5)

Unread post by mornhavon » Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:46 am

odroid wrote:We have no firm plan yet.
I hope we can disclose our road map in October.
Sorry for the delay.
You'd hoped to release the roadmap in August, then October. Now that we're entering 2018, can you give us a better idea of what to realistically expect?

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Re: Which List for Next Gem (XU5)

Unread post by rooted » Fri Dec 22, 2017 12:30 pm

mornhavon wrote:
odroid wrote:We have no firm plan yet.
I hope we can disclose our road map in October.
Sorry for the delay.
You'd hoped to release the roadmap in August, then October. Now that we're entering 2018, can you give us a better idea of what to realistically expect?
I'm sure they are firm with continued support for the XU4 and related Exynos 5422 boards.

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Re: Which List for Next Gem (XU5)

Unread post by OdroidC4 » Sun Dec 31, 2017 9:51 pm

To be honest, software support and stability are ALL of our major concerns, so I agree with delaying a C3 or XU5 because for the most part the newer chips were not too much better. But, now with the Kirin 970 or others, it is time for a XU5 with more memory 3, or 4 GB with 64 bit cores (x53/x7x).

Ok, it will not happen, but it would be nice to have some GPIO pins at 3V instead of 1.8V for interfacing as the voltage conversion to 3V on many pins is a PITA as we all know. Now with Google AIY, I need to convert a bunch of pins, ya not hard, but not a clean interface either. To this day, I like Odroid's C2 and XU4 way better than other SBC's, and probably most here do too due to community support and with support from Hardkernel.

It's really the issue of the ARM CPU developers that are totally at fault. We should have better thermals on the CPU die, more SPI and I2C ports with better HW assist on both for deeper FIFO's and such, as it only adds pennies to the cost. With 10nm technology, none of these companies are doing SBC chips, they are doing cell phone and tablet chips. A SBC chip with fan can do better than a chip inside a cell phone or tablet due to heat sink and fan. Imho, too much focus on trying to go high end $200 SBC. Instead we need to thank Hardkernel, Odroid, and mdjr (hope I got that right), and many others to make it stable, extensible, and useful for multiple applications. C2 and XU4 have old tech, but still dominate the market based on software support and performance per watt, and performance per dollar. Ya, I have no problem spending $100 on an XU5 if it has more memory, 64 bit, better thermals, and would greatly appreciate more than one SPI port. We have to bit bang the crap out of SPI on the C2, but that is the fault of the chip, not Hardkernel. The C1+ had real SPI.

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Re: Which List for Next Gem (XU5)

Unread post by alpha_one_x86 » Fri Jan 05, 2018 3:33 am

Cortex A53 is not affected?
Then with the new bug, I'm more for 8 Cortex A53 with best memory. Like Exynos 7 Octa 7880

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Re: Which List for Next Gem (XU5)

Unread post by elatllat » Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:55 am

8 core A53:
http://linuxgizmos.com/mini-pc-doubles- ... hacker-sbc
Only USB2 and 2GB RAM though.

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Re: Which List for Next Gem (XU5)

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Re: Which List for Next Gem (XU5)

Unread post by hugolp » Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:59 am

What about the AMD APUs coming on February? The Ryzen 3 2200G comes at 99usd retail, 45-65W and Vega has full open source linux drivers. An odroid platform with those APU's or even the mobile ones (9-25W) would be awesome, even if they are above the XU line price.

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Re: Which List for Next Gem (XU5)

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Re: Which List for Next Gem (XU5)

Unread post by elatllat » Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:57 am

Just in case you missed it the N1 is next.

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