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SATA power cable

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I forgot to buy the sata power cable.

Do anyone has a description where to buy the spare one? I'm looking for details on connector, pinout, maybe exact replacement?

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Re: SATA power cable

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Surprisingly still no information in the wiki so all you have is this: viewtopic.php?f=168&t=32911#p239560

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@odroid: Why is there no cheaper shipping method available, e.g. for a single sata cable? Why is only DHL possible? I also would love to order a sata cable, altough shipping is ~10 times the amount of the article itself.

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Sorry for the inconvenience caused.

In fact, we tried a cheaper shipping(normal mail box from Korea) option a couple of years ago.
But there were many disputes due to missing/delayed deliveries. Therefore, we gave up cheaper shipping option.

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Any idea when they will be in stock and why can't you ship Royal Mail tracked?

I've got everything else but the leads. Oh, and the screw for the M.2 but that's not your fault, either :)

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hi

i am using a floppy power connector from an old pc power unit, just solder it to a SATA power plug.
you only have to cut the noses, the pins are matching
saving small money, saving a lot of time

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ratzee wrote:
Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:11 am
saving small money, saving a lot of time
Great minds think alike ;)

Bought these before xmas, £3 for the lot, soldering them this week.

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They REALLY ought to be included with the case.

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LevelUp wrote:
Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:55 am
Bought these before xmas, £3 for the lot
Is there an AWG rating printed on the cables? Power wires seem to be very thin, don't they? Just asking since viewtopic.php?f=173&t=33319 (users focus on amperage ratings and PSUs and almost never think about interconnects and cable/contact resistance resulting in additional voltage drops when higher currents are drawn)

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tkaiser wrote: (users focus on amperage ratings and PSUs and almost never think about interconnects and cable/contact resistance resulting in additional voltage drops when higher currents are drawn)
I was just thinking about it being the SATA power cable in this issue since he is using a known good power supply

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rooted wrote:
Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:31 pm
tkaiser wrote: (users focus on amperage ratings and PSUs and almost never think about interconnects and cable/contact resistance resulting in additional voltage drops when higher currents are drawn)
I was just thinking about it being the SATA power cable in this issue since he is using a known good power supply
Problems/resistance can add up (see the various Cloudshell I problems with XU4).

Anyway: If you have a mainboard with a female Molex connector and use such an Y-adapter as shown above to feed two SATA drives... then if you bought your cable from reputable sources (e.g. Molex) there will be '18 AWG' written in the specs, printed on the cable and delivered in reality. No severe voltage drops to be expected.

If you walked the 'buy cheap buy twice' route you can not even trust in any printings on the cable since AWG ratings often are fake. But the cable diameters on the picture above already looks that tiny that AWG ratings are not needed anyway...

That said it's up to Hardkernel to decide whether to bundle SATA power cables of appropriate quality for their connector of choice or to deal with the usual 'SBC mess' (powering problems being the root cause for all sorts of 'funny' errors and unexperienced users then often blaming software instead of hardware issues)

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tkaiser wrote:
Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:18 pm
Is there an AWG rating printed on the cables? Power wires seem to be very thin
Didn't buy them for the wires, bought them for the correct pitch plugs.

It's simple to remove the wires from the plug, crimp the thicker wires and insert them into the plug.

Bit fiddly but job's a goodun ;)

The proper powers leads REALLY REALLY ought to be included and anyone who bought case 2 ought to be sent a set free of charge. Until then, it's ghetto rigged.

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I tried to use a floppy power connector as ratzee suggested but its female pins are more wider than the male pins in the connector at the H2, and, IMHO, the connection was loose.

Even if the connection seems tight, one never knows if it is tight because the perfect fitting of the two plastic pieces: male and female; or because of the tightness of the fitting between the metal ones. And the important are the metal ones.

So, I had to disassemble carefully the floppy connector, discarding the plastic piece, tighten the female pins with the pliers, and matching them, one by one, to the male pins in the board. The result is a firm connection.
After that, I've put some isolation tape around the pins to prevent any contact between them.
The result is not very beautiful but I had not too many easy options.

Conclusion:
- Any connector can do the job.
- Disassemble it (at some connectors you need simply to pull hard from each cable at a time out of the plastic part, at some others you need to manipulate a bit the metal pins to ease this movement).
- Pick 4 cables with their female pins at the end
- Tighten them with the pliers as needed
- Match them with the male pins on the board, one by one
- Isolate them to prevent short-circuits.

And, as in this thread(viewtopic.php?f=168&t=32911&p=239673&hi ... ut#p239843) is explained:
- red cable (12V) nearer to the SATA data connectors
- then two black cables with ground
- then a yellow cable with 5V

The result is not the best because is not as firm as the official cable and easily it looses contact.

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So basically there is no SATA power cable? Hardkernel designed a new plug and the user is supposed to build his/her own cable?

Great work! Thanks! :(

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I think they're seeing shortages because of international issues. The plug is standard, just not for sata power as we're used to on pc...

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knorke wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:04 pm
So basically there is no SATA power cable? Hardkernel designed a new plug and the user is supposed to build his/her own cable?

Great work! Thanks! :(
Alternatively, you could purchase a cable if the Hardkernel store does not have.
viewtopic.php?f=171&t=36813&p=273312&hilit=jst#p273614

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I found this kit on amazon which has at least one working cable. Another fit, but is the old IDE format. I can confirm that the SATA power cable works.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BI ... UTF8&psc=1
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Post by wojtoo »

I found that type of cable
Will be ok?
thanks
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000286673502.html
or this is simmilar
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000903298893.html

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It seems to be compatible. But we can't guarantee since we didn't test it.

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Post by Slaminger »

Almost any cable will work for power really. To test I yanked 4 random wires and hooked them up to the pins, then cut the PC motherboard plug off the end of a set of sata power cables, wired the two together accordingly. Job done, and it was free!
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