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Re: ODROID N2 Discussion Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:19 pm
by tkaiser
brad wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:29 pm
The S905X2 SOC on the other hand is not legacy and being actively developed against Linus kernel. (Amlogic contributing with patches as well for new devices which is really good to see imo)
Interesting. I thought Amlogic is only active on their own 4.9 based BSP while everything that happens upstream is due to BayLibre (partially sponsored by Amlogic in the beginning, now mainly by Libre Computer) and heroes like e.g. Martin Blumenstingl: http://lca-kernel.ozlabs.org/2018-Armst ... c-SoCs.pdf

Re: ODROID N2 Discussion Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:49 pm
by brad
tkaiser wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:19 pm
Interesting. I thought Amlogic is only active on their own 4.9 based BSP while everything that happens upstream is due to BayLibre (partially sponsored by Amlogic in the beginning, now mainly by Libre Computer) and heroes like e.g. Martin Blumenstingl: http://lca-kernel.ozlabs.org/2018-Armst ... c-SoCs.pdf
Yes they are the true heros amongst some others! :) Love their work and use it all the time.

Amlogic are contributing directly also which is the only point I was trying to make there. I think its good see them committing to the public domain.

Re: ODROID N2 Discussion Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:59 pm
by nobe
@brad

in the latest amlogic buildroot tarball, you can find the mali userspace blob for this dvalin gpu
when playing with objdump, i found out that it seems opencl capable but doesn't seem to have any gles capabilities

Re: ODROID N2 Discussion Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:54 pm
by kafan1986
rooted wrote:
Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:51 pm
I was thinking February, not sure why.
It is almost February. First week is off in HK for holidays. Can we expect something in the 2nd week of February? Let the game of speculation begin. :mrgreen:

Re: ODROID N2 Discussion Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 8:44 pm
by rooted
I speculate yes, they need a good holiday before releasing and supporting something :)

Re: ODROID N2 Discussion Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:29 pm
by back2future
rooted wrote:
Thu Jan 31, 2019 8:44 pm
I speculate yes, they need a good holiday before releasing and supporting something :)
Only thus to that, keep me a spare F5 key available for that time coming. :)

Re: ODROID N2 Discussion Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:21 pm
by newbie06
https://www.cnx-software.com/2019/02/01 ... enchmarks/

I guess the Droidlogic Galilei name does not mean it's in any way related to N2 but as least that gives a score for Amlogic S922 in case some are interested.

Re: ODROID N2 Discussion Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:24 pm
by OverSun
I'm not right after the point where it turns out there is no real linux support exists for S922, only Android, Android, Android... Screw that.

Re: ODROID N2 Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 1:17 am
by nobe
newbie06 wrote:
Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:21 pm
https://www.cnx-software.com/2019/02/01 ... enchmarks/

I guess the Droidlogic Galilei name does not mean it's in any way related to N2 but as least that gives a score for Amlogic S922 in case some are interested.
Stane's comment is very interesting there, he even shows a picture with S922X specs, and surprise, there is also a new S922D which is basically a S922X with neural network capabilities

as a side note, i really hope the DVP camera input would be exposed if the odroid n2 were to feature S922X or S922D SoC.

Re: ODROID N2 Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 1:49 am
by rooted
OverSun wrote:I'm not right after the point where it turns out there is no real linux support exists for S922, only Android, Android, Android... Screw that.
Hardkernel wouldn't use it if this is true ;)

Re: ODROID N2 Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:37 am
by cdu13a
newbie06 wrote:
Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:21 pm
https://www.cnx-software.com/2019/02/01 ... enchmarks/

I guess the Droidlogic Galilei name does not mean it's in any way related to N2 but as least that gives a score for Amlogic S922 in case some are interested.
Those numbers are beyond useless, you could roll some dice to get more accurate performance numbers for the S922x and it's variants.
nobe wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 1:17 am

Stane's comment is very interesting there, he even shows a picture with S922X specs, and surprise, there is also a new S922D which is basically a S922X with neural network capabilities

as a side note, i really hope the DVP camera input would be exposed if the odroid n2 were to feature S922X or S922D SoC.
There are other interesting differences between the X and D that the picture doesn't show(it's a marketing sheet after all), but that one definitely could be interesting if there was enough documentation to be able to use it.
rooted wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 1:49 am
OverSun wrote:I'm not right after the point where it turns out there is no real linux support exists for S922, only Android, Android, Android... Screw that.
Hardkernel wouldn't use it if this is true ;)
I agree with rooted. I don't think we have to worry about hardkernel providing us anything but the best possible device they can.

Also just like most of the other public bits of info making the rounds about the s922 and its variants there is reason to question the android only bit.

Re: ODROID N2 Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:58 am
by rooted
I still don't think it's going to be Amlogic

Re: ODROID N2 Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:04 am
by memeka
Nobody’s saying how nice the S905X2 is for a C3.
A C2 with a USB3 instead of USB2, and lower power because of 12nm :)

Re: ODROID N2 Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:42 pm
by newbie06
cdu13a wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:37 am
newbie06 wrote:
Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:21 pm
https://www.cnx-software.com/2019/02/01 ... enchmarks/

I guess the Droidlogic Galilei name does not mean it's in any way related to N2 but as least that gives a score for Amlogic S922 in case some are interested.
Those numbers are beyond useless, you could roll some dice to get more accurate performance numbers for the S922x and it's variants.
Yeah, definitely. I saw after posting that this was in 32-bit ARM mode and to add to the pain using Geekbench 4.0. Direct to trash, sorry for posting that; at least that started some discussion :)

Re: ODROID N2 Discussion Thread

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:36 pm
by Gburas
everyday habit - check if they release n2 odroid............ i don't know what i will be doing when they actually release it

Re: ODROID N2 Discussion Thread

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:08 pm
by mad_ady
@Gburas: do you have a bigger version of your profile pic?

Re: ODROID N2 Discussion Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:02 am
by Gburas
It was spontaneous project, but if @odroid will let me buy from first batch of n2 I can design LEGO case so everyone can make their own ;)Image

Wysłane z mojego Moto Z (2) przy użyciu Tapatalka


Re: ODROID N2 Discussion Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:00 am
by kafan1986
Gburas wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:36 pm
everyday habit - check if they release n2 odroid............ i don't know what i will be doing when they actually release it
Should be around the corner as HK is offloading their XU4 inventory through great discount on their site.

Re: ODROID N2 Discussion Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:59 pm
by mad_ady
@Gburas: it looks nice, but my kids would scalp me if I "borrowed" their lego pieces...

Re: ODROID N2 Discussion Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:13 pm
by rooted
kafan1986 wrote:
Gburas wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:36 pm
everyday habit - check if they release n2 odroid............ i don't know what i will be doing when they actually release it
Should be around the corner as HK is offloading their XU4 inventory through great discount on their site.
I don't think they are offloading the inventory, the XU4 sells too well to discontinue it.

Re: ODROID N2 Discussion Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:22 pm
by mad_ady
Anyway, I expect it will be at least 6 months from the release date that N2 will be well enough supported (in terms of extra hardware/custom software) to be able to replace the XU4 for non-tinkerers.

Re: ODROID N2 Discussion Thread

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:51 am
by elatllat
I noticed the IBM Blackbird (BK1B01) has open source firmware.
The $1k, 90W, and hardware accelerators gear it away from common SBC use but interesting.