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ODROID C1 User Manual - Ver. 1.0

Unread postby venkatbo » Tue Jul 14, 2015 3:22 pm

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Pl. provide feedback on this thread.
Thanks.

Updates:
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07/29/2015 09:00 PM PST:
The user manual has been updated to include first round of feedback.
The link to this updated version is:
http://magazine.odroid.com/assets/manua ... manual.pdf
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Re: ODROID C1 User Manual - Ver. 1.0

Unread postby odroid » Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:04 pm

Thank you for the post.
This thread is "STICKY" now. :)
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Re: ODROID C1 User Manual - Ver. 1.0

Unread postby Deozaan » Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:00 pm

The Google Play Books edition has many spelling errors. It also seems to start at Chapter 3 as page 1. Previous chapters and info has pages numbered with Roman Numerals.

See my screenshots for some details:

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Re: ODROID C1 User Manual - Ver. 1.0

Unread postby robroy » Fri Jul 17, 2015 12:33 am

Thanks for the feedback. I will upload a corrected version soon.
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Re: ODROID C1 User Manual - Ver. 1.0

Unread postby robroy » Tue Jul 21, 2015 7:43 am

I fixed the typos that were listed above and re-uploaded to the Google Play Store.

However, it seems that the manual will sometimes default to the beginning of Chapter 3 or 4 when freshly downloaded. I positioned the PDF on Page 1 before uploading it, so it is likely a quirk of the Play Store.

It is also numbering the pages correctly, at least on my Galaxy S5 phone.

Please let me know of any further corrections or typos.
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Re: ODROID C1 User Manual - Ver. 1.0

Unread postby Deozaan » Wed Jul 22, 2015 2:44 am

I don't know how the page numbering works on Google Play when you as the author upload a PDF to the Play Store, but now the page numbering is even further off when I view it. I wasn't sure how to force Play Books to update to the latest version of the book, so I cleared all data from Play Books and re-downloaded it, and I still see this issue.

It says page 61 (of the PDF) is page 1 of the Google Play Book.

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Regardless of the page numbering, I'll start reading through it again and take note of any other typos or errors I see. Thanks!
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Re: ODROID C1 User Manual - Ver. 1.0

Unread postby cudencuden » Wed Aug 12, 2015 1:58 am

can we have a external HDD compatibility list? for added HDD, also specified how much Amps were used?
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Re: ODROID C1 User Manual - Ver. 1.0

Unread postby robroy » Wed Aug 12, 2015 10:19 am

cudencuden wrote:can we have a external HDD compatibility list? for added HDD, also specified how much Amps were used?

That would be a long and time-consuming list. Have you found an external HDD that doesn't work?
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Re: ODROID C1 User Manual - Ver. 1.0

Unread postby cudencuden » Thu Aug 13, 2015 2:37 am

yeah..a list of verified not working would also serve same purspose...

what did not work for me was the: WD Elements 2TB USB3 portable harddrive. Used 3.4A power supply.

Do we know what the general hdd requirement is for it to work with C1? I've heard folks using 500GB, 1TB drives and stuff....
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Re: ODROID C1 User Manual - Ver. 1.0

Unread postby robroy » Thu Aug 13, 2015 3:33 am

I recommend starting a new thread regarding your HDD. One of the devs may be able to help you get it working.
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Re: ODROID C1 User Manual - Ver. 1.0

Unread postby cudencuden » Thu Aug 13, 2015 8:33 am

robroy wrote:I recommend starting a new thread regarding your HDD. One of the devs may be able to help you get it working.


??? didn't post in here to get my HDD working....
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Re: ODROID C1 User Manual - Ver. 1.0

Unread postby KyRol » Wed Sep 30, 2015 9:43 am

venkatbo wrote:https://plus.google.com/102407583165771869503/posts/8StgJpoFr6P

Pl. provide feedback on this thread.
Thanks.

Updates:
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07/29/2015 09:00 PM PST:
The user manual has been updated to include first round of feedback.
The link to this updated version is:
http://magazine.odroid.com/assets/manua ... manual.pdf


At 54 page of the user manual is recommended to use Bluetooth controller made by ASUS or delivered by HardKernel. I purchased this one made by ASUS and now I can not enable it in Android. I use Odroid C1 with latest Android image. I ask you because forum Staff Member refused to answer my question and told me to ask you - the user manual author. My problem is when I try to turn BT switch on, then it switches back to off position after a couple of seconds. BT can not be enabled even for short period of time but something going on in the background while switch is turned, I do not know what exactly, I have not any UART:( Have you got any solution to resolve this issue?

PS.: I would prefer to ask via PM, however I can not do it, sorry.
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Re: ODROID C1 User Manual - Ver. 1.0

Unread postby robroy » Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:41 pm

54 page of the user manual is recommended to use Bluetooth controller made by ASUS or delivered by HardKernel. Have you got any solution to resolve this issue?

We tested the ASUS module using Lubuntu, but not with Android. I will revise the text accordingly.

Are you using the latest Android image? You should also be able to check the logs by typing "dmesg" in the Terminal application.
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Re: ODROID C1 User Manual - Ver. 1.0

Unread postby KyRol » Thu Oct 01, 2015 9:04 am

We tested the ASUS module using Lubuntu, but not with Android. I will revise the text accordingly.


I see it is revised already, I have non-revised user manual where is written:

Hardkernel offers a bluetooth adapter called the Bluetooth (4.0)
Module 2 which is certified to work with the C1. However, quite a few
of the plug-and-play adapters compatible with Microsoft Windows 7+,
can be expected to work with C1. The Asus BT400 Bluetooth adapter
is one such compatible device, details of which are described below.


The question is why someone who wrote about ASUS BT controller didn't check it in Android before publishing the manual? I purchased most expensive controller which does not work in expected way. I could spend 100% money less without the pain and - how ironic - user manual suggestions changed my mind, but this was walkthrough in the blind alley.

I hope that current revision have temporary state. Promoting controller which is compatible only with GNU/Linux and is useless with Android may only cause further frustration other C1 users. Nowhere is written that BT400 is invalid with Android at all, currently is only added that BT400 is valid with Linux. It's misleading. I think that could be better if some author may add write-up about BT controller which works with both - GNU/Linux and Android. But before publishing anything - first check it.

Are you using the latest Android image?


Could you take a look on to my previous post? I attached a link to the exact revision of Android.

You should also be able to check the logs by typing "dmesg" in the Terminal application.


I grant permissions for root in order to see result of the commands. After preforming dmesg | grep Blue I received only empty lines. Even while I switched BT button to on state I didn't received anything using dmesg. I decided to disconnect and connect BT module in order to see anything. That's all what I could see by preforming dmesg | tail:

Code: Select all
<4>[  422.711200@2] USB sound usbid = 0x0d8c0008, card = 1, device = 0**
<4>[  422.723569@2] USB sound usbid = 0x0d8c0008, card = 1, device = 0**
<14>[  426.145837@1] healthd: battery l=100 v=0 t=2.0 h=2 st=2 chg=a
<6>[  442.472666@0] usb 1-1.2: new full-speed USB device number 16 using dwc_otg
<14>[  486.145859@1] healthd: battery l=100 v=0 t=2.0 h=2 st=2 chg=a
<14>[  546.145865@1] healthd: battery l=100 v=0 t=2.0 h=2 st=2 chg=a
<14>[  606.145969@1] healthd: battery l=100 v=0 t=2.0 h=2 st=2 chg=a
<14>[  666.145841@1] healthd: battery l=100 v=0 t=2.0 h=2 st=2 chg=a
<5>[  694.261501@3] type=1400 audit(87080.170:17): avc:  denied  { write } for  pid=225 comm="Binder_2" path="socket:[10589]" dev="sockfs" ino=10589 scontext=u:r:untrusted_app:s0 tcontext=u:r:init:s0 tclass=unix_stream_socket
<14>[  726.146003@1] healthd: battery l=100 v=0 t=2.0 h=2 st=2 chg=a
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Re: ODROID C1 User Manual - Ver. 1.0

Unread postby robroy » Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:53 am

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Re: ODROID C1 User Manual - Ver. 1.0

Unread postby odroid » Thu Oct 01, 2015 12:08 pm

The description is only for Linux not Android.
Android needs more work in the HAL driver and framework.
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Re: ODROID C1 User Manual - Ver. 1.0

Unread postby KyRol » Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:09 am

The description is only for Linux not Android.
Android needs more work in the HAL driver and framework.


In chapter with Android it is written that enabling BT controller is easy as turning switch on. No warnings about ASUS controller which does not work, no information about officially supported controller. I can not receive informations by telepathic way, if earlier in the manual was spoken about two controllers I thought that two of them works flawlessly in any OS. I was wrong.

Using Bluetooth Devices with Android
Bluetooth device detection and pairing are very easy with Android using
the Settings application. After plugging in a USB bluetooth
adapter and powering up the C1, you will need to enable the bluetooth
receiver. Open the Settings application, find Bluetooth in the settings
list under the Wireless and Networks category, and select ON to enable
your USB bluetooth adapter and bluetooth services. To begin
pairing your bluetooth device to the C1, turn on your device and put
the device into pairing mode. The Bluetooth manager will display a list
of detected devices, as well as devices that have been successfully
paired.

If your device was detected, but not shown to be a paired device,
click on the sliders icon on the right side of the listed device to open
the bluetooth settings for this device. Complete the pairing process by
entering the pairing code or passkey for the device. If the bluetooth
device was not detected, clicking on search for devices will perform a
manual scan for any detectable bluetooth devices within range of the
C1.


This is entire chapter about BT controller in Android from the user manual. Don't you think is it laconic?

If you think that errata is not needed - it's your decision. I posted here because of my experience and lost money. What you do - it's your decision. Hope that soon entire forum will not be flooded with the same questions and very same troubles.
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Re: ODROID C1 User Manual - Ver. 1.0

Unread postby robroy » Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:28 pm

I appreciate the feedback, and will remove references to the Asus controller to prevent confusion. The Hardkernel bluetooth module is the primary BT peripheral that is currently supported in both operating systems, although many other models can be used with Linux. Sorry about that. The Hardkernel developers may be able to enable the Asus controller in future releases of Android for the C1.

Perhaps you can sell or return the $15 Asus dongle and add on the Hardkernel module to your next order. If you are in the US, Ameridroid offers inexpensive shipping.
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Re: ODROID C1 User Manual - Ver. 1.0

Unread postby KyRol » Wed Oct 07, 2015 5:52 am

I appreciate the feedback, and will remove references to the Asus controller to prevent confusion.


I appreciate the amount of work spent to create the best user manual ever made for Odroid C1 devlopment board. Other dev boards haven't it.

The Hardkernel bluetooth module is the primary BT peripheral that is currently supported in both operating systems, although many other models can be used with Linux. Sorry about that. The Hardkernel developers may be able to enable the Asus controller in future releases of Android for the C1.


If so, I do not see any reason to remove writeup about Asus BT controller. It is enough to mention about lack of comaptibility with Android at the moment in the chapter where is written that Asus BT is "fine example". Not everyone read all of user manual contents, so in the chapter with Android and BT setup you may add notification that Asus BT does not work currently, but there the plans to make it working.

Perhaps you can sell or return the $15 Asus dongle and add on the Hardkernel module to your next order. If you are in the US, Ameridroid offers inexpensive shipping.


I did not came to complain here, I came with feedback. I bought another device which is BT-driven. Attached USB BT module to this device may not work with Android but if it will I post here it's VID/PID. Besides I'm from Europe.
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Re: ODROID C1 User Manual - Ver. 1.0

Unread postby robroy » Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:31 pm

The ODROID-C1 User Manual has been updated for the ODROID-C1+ and includes guides to all of the peripherals available as of June 2017.

https://magazine.odroid.com/odroid-c1

Please use this thread to give any feedback, suggestions, or corrections.
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